OrangeClown: Falsely accused of "IC OOC" & completely wrong information in ban

CKey: Orange Clown
RoundID: 11015
Reason: Round 11015 Rule Broken ic ooc reason after being killed by a wizard cried in ooc about being killed and wizard camping arrivals when you walked straight into them you just got off a ban you should read the rules

The reality:

OOC: OrangeClown: I SURE DO LOVE BEING KILLED AS SOON AS I JOIN THE GAME
OOC: Sliggist: dont ic ooc you idiot
OOC: OrangeClown: do your job and enforce the server rules

  1. I made no mention of a wizard
  2. I made no mention of him camping arrivals
  3. I revealed nothing about the round other than the fact “died as soon as I joined” and
    we are talking a difference of 30 seconds between joining and dying.

The only thing that this reveals is that Sliggist decided to idly sit around while people were being spawn killed in arrivals. An admin doing nothing about a wizard camping the arrivals shuttle is very much an OOC issue, not an IC one, because it’s something that completely ruins the game.

Take note of where all of the players are dying in the log. It wasn’t just me; the wizard basically murder-boned all of arrivals who just joined with admin blessings.

If you think that is worth a 3 day ban you are completely fucking insane; and this is on top of the fact that my previous ban reason was for, and I quote: “breaking into the bridge of the shuttle” (with 5 crabs and several giant rats already there) and allegedly “spamming” (false and baseless - it was the launch authorization/revoke and I only did it a couple of times - where as I’ve personally seen players do it 50 times in a row with zero consequences despite the fact it’s actually annoying) in addition to the fact I blinded people as an antag.

Yes. A wizard can gib players in arrivals with no problem but as a syndicate clown I am not allowed to use a laser pointer to blind people. The problem I have with this, and why it was brought into OOC is the repeated and blatant selective enforcement of rules.

You have died. Barring complete bodyloss, you can in most cases be revived by other players. If you do not wish to be brought back, use the “Do Not Resuscitate” verb in the ghost tab.

(F) DEAD: Reed Fiddler says, “major deja vu”

(F) DEAD: Caitlyn Brindle says, “from youtube”

(F) DEAD: Silvina The Flesh Shaper says, “HO”

(F) Sizz meows, “Hmm you have plenty of jobs for stuff”

(F) Cherry Pnaktous has died at Dormitory Toilets.

K.A.T.B.O.T. Announces:
BREAKING: Local wizard has mjolnir and can turn into a rod, please avoid all direct confrontation if possible to avoid permanent injury, maiming or death.

(F) K.A.T.B.O.T. made a priority announcement from AI Chamber.

(F) DEAD: Borged Mime says, “oh wow i love joining the round and getting killed in arrivals”

(F) DEAD: Silvina The Flesh Shaper says, “THAT MAN GOT TOSSED”

Terry A. Davis grabs Erold Begonia aggressively!

(F) Sizz meows, “Occuline um”

(F) Terry A. Davis says, “Wizard”

(F) DEAD: Caitlyn Brindle says, “yeah”

(F) DEAD: Caitlyn Brindle says, “this is legit”

(F) Ivan Bould says, “Come in sir”

(F) DEAD: Caitlyn Brindle says, “straight out of a lepi mewtarra vid”

Ivan Bould is trying to perform CPR on Erold Begonia!

(F) DEAD: Silvina The Flesh Shaper says, “Mjolnir is funny weapon”

OOC: OrangeClown: I SURE DO LOVE BEING KILLED AS SOON AS I JOIN THE GAME

(F) Terry A. Davis says, “He not wizard”
Ivan Bould performs CPR on Erold Begonia!

(F) J.K. Jenkins has died at Lounge.

(F) Sizz meows, “Mutadones a real important one”

(F) Terry A. Davis says, “He got hit by wizard”

(F) Ivan Bould says, “Oh my god”

(F) Ramon Ivanov has died at Departure Lounge.
Ivan Bould grabs Erold Begonia passively!

That’s a plating.
There are a few attachment holes for a new tile or reinforcement rods.

OOC: Sliggist: dont ic ooc you idiot

OOC: Forgotme1: just dont die

OOC: Jet Magnum: nice

(F) Vlad Petrov whispers, “Fucking”

(F) DEAD: Caitlyn Brindle says, “haha”

Central Command Update

Hello crew we would like an update!

OOC: OrangeClown: do your job and enforce the server rules

That’s a floor.
There’s a small crack on the edge of it.

The OOC channel has been globally disabled.

(F) Jet Magnum has died at Lounge.

(F) Enrique Bullard has died at Garden.

– Administrator private message –
Admin PM from-Sliggist: why are you like this
Click on the administrator’s name to reply.

(F) F.U.R.R.Y. has died at Central Primary Hallway.

K.A.T.B.O.T. Announces:
BREAKING: Local wizard is attacking crew in the station’s central hallway atrium, now moving north towards SEC and Command

(F) K.A.T.B.O.T. made a priority announcement from AI Chamber.

(F) DEAD: F.U.R.R.Y. states, “well shit”

PM to-Admins: are you saying that the wizard basically spawn camping the arrivals hall way is valid

(F) DEAD: Jet Magnum asks, “I am assuming this is a john willard wizard moment?”

That’s a wall.
A huge chunk of metal used to separate rooms.
The outer plating is welded firmly in place.

(F) DEAD: Silvina The Flesh Shaper says, “MMMMMMMMMMm”

(F) DEAD: Caitlyn Brindle says, “no”

DEAD: Moderator(Mokoshotar) says, “nop”

(F) DEAD: Silvina The Flesh Shaper says, “Cap deader than dea”

(F) DEAD: Flanksteak says, “Rip”

– Administrator private message –
Admin PM from-Sliggist: yea actuallly since you just happened to walk right into him as he came on station
Click on the administrator’s name to reply.

(F) DEAD: Cherry Pnaktous says, “thats hilarious”

(F) Janiyah Wentzel has died at Captain’s Office.

(F) DEAD: Silvina The Flesh Shaper says, “That scooter did you no favors Janiyah.”

PM to-Admins: we’re talking a 30 second difference between joining and dying.

(F) DEAD: Janiyah Wentzel meows, “it truly did not”

(F) DEAD: Janiyah Wentzel meows, “fucked by my own fox”

(F) DEAD: Janiyah Wentzel meows, “and lax”

(F) DEAD: Ronald Todd says, “aaa”

(F) DEAD: Janiyah Wentzel meows, “that bwoink spooked me”

(F) DEAD: Ronald Todd says, “i heard bwoink”

(F) DEAD: Ronald Todd says, “aaaaaaa”

(F) Greg has died at Lavaland Wastes.

(F) Pinecone Pete (Janitor) has arrived at the station at Arrival Shuttle.

K.A.T.B.O.T. Announces:
ALERT: please report any wizard sightings to the common channel as soon as possible

(F) K.A.T.B.O.T. made a priority announcement from AI Chamber.

You have been banned by Sliggist from the server.
Reason: Round 11015 Rule Broken ic ooc reason after being killed by a wizard cried in ooc about being killed and wizard camping arrivals when you walked straight into them you just got off a ban you should read the rules
This ban is temporary, it will be removed in 3 days. The round ID is 11015.
To appeal this ban go to Ban appeals - Fulpstation

Log prior, to put it into more context, also lol @ “antag murderboning” considering the Wizard was essentially waiting outside of the shuttle to kill people as they got off.

Welcome to Fulpstation!
This server is running a customized /tg/station 13 Git build.
In case this is not clear, this server is not intended for impressionable youths. It features blood and gore and other immoral subjects.

[CLICK HERE TO READ THE RULES]

[CLICK HERE TO JOIN THE DISCORD]

Greytiding, antag murderboning, and griefing WILL net you a ban. Plus, the regulars are prepared to narc on you in a heartbeat.

WE ARE NOW A MRP SERVER. Do your job or NT will fire you from the server! Obey NT rules as stated in the link above!

The following pull requests are currently test merged:
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You are the Mime.
As the Mime you answer directly to the head of personnel. Special circumstances may change this.
Prefix your message with :h to speak on your department’s radio. To see other prefixes, look closely at your headset.
As this station was initially staffed with a full crew, only your job’s necessities have been added to your ID card.
You are a big fan of clowns.
You feel sleepy.
You know how to tag walls efficiently.

[Common] The Automated Announcement System coldly states, “Borged Mime has signed up as Mime”

[Common] Ronald Todd whispers in his last breath, “WINED*.*”

You unbuckle yourself from the shuttle seat.

[Common] Leo Jones meows, “WELP SOME ONE BE DEAD”

Payday processed, account now holds 330 cr.

The Arrival shuttle requests console beeps, “Shuttle departing.”

K.A.T.B.O.T. Announces:
ALERT: The Wizards’ Federation has dispatched an agent to the station.

You grab Erold Begonia passively!

[Common] Greg says, “OPEN ENGI”

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This is Erold Begonia!
He is wearing a sexy-clown suit.
He has a leather satchel on his back.
He has PDA-Erold Begonia (Curator) about his waist.
He is wearing some sandals on his feet.
He has a sexy-clown wig and mask on his face.
He is wearing Erold Begonia’s ID Card (Curator).
His left leg appears grotesquely swollen, its attachment weakened!
He has severe bruising!
He is covered in something flammable.
He has pale skin.
He has pale skin.
He is barely conscious.

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[Common] Greg says, “ITS IMPORTANT”

[Common] Chiemi meows, “Nooo”

J.K. Jenkins puts the fire extinguisher into the satchel.

[Common] Jeffrey Magor says, “Rad.”

Medibot states, “Hey, Erold Begonia! Hold on, I’m coming.”

Jet Magnum says, “Examine me for any bruises”

[Service] Vlad Petrov asks, “Who has my null rod?”

[Common] Jeffrey Magor says, “Better be a good one.”

[Common] Rodger asks, “Wizard, can we talk??”

Jet Magnum crashes into Borged Mime really hard, knocking them both over!

Je (as Eli Woollard) says, “NEC CANTIO”
The flash burns out!
The flash emits a blinding light!
Your eyes sting a little.
The flash burns out!
The sensors on the the mime’s outfit change rapidly!
The service radio headset overloads.

Je (as Eli Woollard) says, “CAVERE INSIDIAS”

The shock trap flares brightly!
J.K. Jenkins was shocked by the shock trap!

The firelock closes on you and crushes you!
Borged Mime screams!

The frost trap flares brightly!

Je (as Eli Woollard) attacked J.K. Jenkins in the head with Mjolnir (Wielded)!
J.K. Jenkins is knocked senseless!
J.K. Jenkins is shocked by Mjolnir (Wielded)!
The Solar’s Best Hot Drinks tips over!
J.K. Jenkins is crushed by the Solar’s Best Hot Drinks!

Je (as Eli Woollard) attacked Jet Magnum in the head with Mjolnir (Wielded)!
Jet Magnum is knocked senseless!
Jet Magnum is shocked by Mjolnir (Wielded)!

Je (as Eli Woollard) attacked Jet Magnum in the head with Mjolnir (Wielded)!
Jet Magnum is shocked by Mjolnir (Wielded)!
x2

Je (as Eli Woollard) attacked Jet Magnum in the left arm with Mjolnir (Wielded)!
Jet Magnum is shocked by Mjolnir (Wielded)!

Jet Magnum’s head sprays chips of bone and develops a nasty looking bruise!
Je (as Eli Woollard) attacked Jet Magnum in the head with Mjolnir (Wielded)!
Jet Magnum is shocked by Mjolnir (Wielded)!

Jet Magnum is shocked by Mjolnir (Wielded)!

J.K. Jenkins gasps!
Terry A. Davis dances around happily.

J.K. Jenkins is shocked by Mjolnir (Wielded)!

Je (as Eli Woollard) puts the Colt Detective Special into the satchel.

Je (as Eli Woollard) exclaims, “CLANG!”

Je (as Eli Woollard) attacked Enrique Bullard in the head with Mjolnir (Wielded)!
Enrique Bullard is shocked by Mjolnir (Wielded)!
The frost trap flares brightly!

Enrique Bullard’s left leg jerks violently and becomes unseated!
Je (as Eli Woollard) attacked Enrique Bullard in the left leg with Mjolnir (Wielded)!
Enrique Bullard is shocked by Mjolnir (Wielded)!

Enrique Bullard’s right leg sprays chips of bone and develops a nasty looking bruise!
Je (as Eli Woollard) attacked Enrique Bullard in the right leg with Mjolnir (Wielded)!
Enrique Bullard is shocked by Mjolnir (Wielded)!

Enrique Bullard grits his teeth in pain!

Je (as Eli Woollard) attacked Enrique Bullard in the head with Mjolnir (Wielded)!
Enrique Bullard is shocked by Mjolnir (Wielded)!

Je (as Eli Woollard) says, “CAVERE INSIDIAS”

Borged Mime waves.

Je (as Eli Woollard) attacked you in the head with Mjolnir (Wielded)!
You feel a powerful shock course through your body sending you flying!
x2

Your right leg jerks violently and becomes unseated!
Je (as Eli Woollard) attacked you in the right leg with Mjolnir (Wielded)!
You feel a powerful shock course through your body sending you flying!

Je (as Eli Woollard) attacked you in the head with Mjolnir (Wielded)!
You feel a powerful shock course through your body sending you flying!

You feel your heart slow down…

The glass table breaks!
You’re hit by the shard!

… You can almost hear something …
x3

You can’t seem to form any coherent thoughts!
… You can almost hear something …
Borged Mime has died at Garden.

I must say, it was pretty shitty of me as the wizard to start killing people in the bar… I killed no one in arrivals though.

That literally was IC OOC, you gave people knowledge of a death in a situation where no one should have known.

i think the ban is more about arguing with admins and being a shit in ahelps rather than the actual ick ock
and it was ick ock, because dying immediately after spawning tells everyone some guy just died in arrivals

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Alright so i looked over the logs for this ban there are a couple details that matter here. The first being that you claimed it to be spawn camping but he never entered the lounge area of the station. The first damage happens at the airlock in the lounge which was caused by a fire alarm but afterwards you continued to move forward towards the chapel. Once in the chapel area you got attacked along with a few others who were in the hallway and killed by the wizard in the garden. Heliostation has a weird setup for arrivals but for it to be considered spawn camping he would have to be preventing you from coming onto the station safely which means being in the arrival area or in the lounge which he didn’t do and the fight happened in the central hallway outside the chapel which is where the wizard spawned on station so he might not have even known you were fresh off the shuttle. While it did happen quite quickly and it is a shame you died fresh from the shuttle they were already killing a bunch of other people as they decided to go with a murder setup for wizard which is currently one of the few antags allowed to do so on fulp.

Next up we have IC in OOC which is a bit of a grey area but usually if a staff member asks you to stop something you should probably stop instead you decided to tell them to “do their job” which they were already doing by telling you to stop IC in OOC which means talking about the round currently going on with any information that is relevant to the round. (The fact you died is relevant information for instance.) You were given a 3 day ban which is a fairly low ban for breaking core rules 0.1 and 7 since you literally just came off a ban.

I’ve went ahead and illustrated a bit of the combat with you in red and them in purple. To hopefully kind of explain a bit of what happened and why it’s hard to just slap for spawn camping with the way the map is built.

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