Byond Account: SinfulBliss
Character Name(s): Axle Brady
Discord Name (ie: Name#1234): TreyJ#0265
Round ID of Ban: 15165 and 15169
Ban Message (Gyazo/imgur or copy and paste):
State your appeal: There are two parts to this ban, so I’ll address both separately. The first is “powergaming.” The ban lists having the QM ID and a box of throwing weapons as evidence I was “powergaming.” This is very confusing to me, because I was bwoinked in-game about this already, and the bwoink was resolved without a ban. It was resolved because I asked the captain permission for it, as I do now for any traitor items that are non-lethal, according to the rules. I simply put a reinforced bola in my secbelt. Also, are throwing weapons even traitor items? I know they spawn in the bar on some maps.
The QM ID was not stolen or powergamed, either. It was due to this situation: https://i.imgur.com/tvFXFyS.png
In the image it was on the ground sitting out during a cult round. Since I didn’t want cultists with a QM ID, I took it. I already had cargo access anyway so I did not need nor want it. Also the QM was dead, so I couldn’t return it to him. I was told I should have searched for the HoP to give the ID to him instead. To me that sounds like a pretty horrible waste of time when cult are running around murdering sec with halos, and I also think the HoP was reported to have died (could be wrong though). Either way, this was also already resolved in a bwoink and should not be banned for in some sort of double-jeopardy.
Now to the second part of this ban, which I believe is the actual reason for it (since it was placed long after the above actions). It states there are multiple accounts of me metagrudging a certain player. I assume this is “John Willard” because of the grief report attached. I can state confidently I have not metagrudged them once. The grief report is about me, a sec officer, confiscating a combat shotgun from them, a bartender. To my knowledge the bartender starts with a double barreled shotgun. If there are two bartenders, then one of them simply has to go without it. A combat shotgun is not in the list of approved items for bartenders, so I go to arrest him for it. He flees through disposals and I eventually catch him, although he tossed the gun so it got lost during the chase. I would do this for anybody I see with a weapon that wasn’t approved by the HoS/warden/cap, not just John Willard.
I am banned for three days for picking up a QM ID, holding onto a throwing weapon with permission from the cap, and trying to confiscate a combat shotgun from a bartender. I have no idea what rules I violated. As security I confiscate weapons that crew has unless they start with them. I did this to a miner as well one round when they ordered autorifles and they yelled about making a grief report for it (ICK OCK).
If there are other cases of “metagrudging” that were taken into account for this ban, I would love to hear them so I have a chance to defend myself against them. I don’t metagrudge people, no matter how much I dislike them out of the game. I believe this ban was a mistake and should be overturned, because confiscating a combat shotgun from a barkeep is something I would do regardless of the player with it.
EDIT: Also the grief report is titled “dereliction of duty” and “possible metagrudging.” That’s such a joke because the whole round all I did was my duty - when I’m sec I spend 100% of the round patrolling and looking for the bad guys, I don’t even stop in the bar for a drink usually. It’s also completely unjustified I got banned over “metagrudging” when the report itself isn’t even sure I was metagrudging (says “probably” metagrudging). Like, if you aren’t even sure you were being metagrudged (because literally all I did was arrest for a restricted item), how does a mod look at that and say “yep that’s a ban”?
I’m not sure if this is a unique mechanic here at Fulp or not, but it seems silly someone can be banned without having an opportunity to defend themselves. Bwoinks have a “response” feature for a reason, but these “grief reports” apparently don’t. Getting banned for something like this, which is clearly not metagrudging, worries me about the way the entire system is setup - if a regular doesn’t like you, they can just make a grief report and one of their mod friends will believe them and ban you without even hearing the other side’s rationale.