Byond Account: BagpipeJogger
Character Name(s): Jerry Graham
Discord Name (ie: Name#1234): No.
Round ID of Ban: 36937
Ban Message (Gyazo/imgur or copy and paste):
Banned by host: You, or another user of this computer or connection (BagpipeJogger) is banned from playing here.
The ban reason is: 24865 - Core 2 Greytiding, Self Antagging, Admin Interaction 4 - Lying in ahelps about why they were greytiding medical, and lying to other crew (including security) about being medbay personnel. Fought with security when confronted IC, and did so even after being brigged. Clearly you have no intention to follow the spirit or letter of our rules. This is a permanent ban because of the admin interaction, which can be appealed at https://forum.fulp.gg/
This ban (BanID #36938) was applied by SoreYew on 2023-03-08 17:11:53 during round ID 24865.
This is a permanent ban.
State your appeal:
Mostly invalid ban reason.
I won’t argue against the greytiding accusation as it’s accurate. I should have asked for the things I wanted instead of just walking in.
I did, however, not fight with security (argue and disagree with would be a fair statement) up until the point where I was left with cuffs in my cell, which I cuffed the officer who refused to remove them with and buckled him to a bed which is the entirety and furthest extent of my actions against security, and which was dealt with IC, with an additional 5 minute sentence and no harm done. A dubious self-antagging claim at best given the circumstances.
With that out of the way, the real point of contention here is the accusation of lying in admin interactions which is blatantly false, and as stated, is the reason this is a permanent ban. While it’s true that I lied to other crewmembers IC, this is not against the rules.
Let me be perfectly clear here, I’m not being accused of lying about action I took or statement I made in the ticket, nor was I impolite at any time during the conversation. “Lying” in this instance refers to the banning admin trying to dictate to me what my intentions were and me stating otherwise (Again, without being impolite). I’m sorry, but I decide what my intentions are, not anyone else, and stating that you’re wrong about what you think I’m thinking isn’t lying.The banning admin didn’t ask, can’t read my mind and enacted the ban while I was in mid-reply.
I’ve had issues with this admin lying in a previous ban about me breaking “Admin Interaction 4” because they decided they’re more qualified than I am to decide what my thoughts and intentions are, and have submitted a staff complaint in the past, but I doubt they actually get taken seriously…
I’m asking that this gets downgraded to a temporary ban for greytiding unless the banning admin can show evidence of me lying to them, as I do not believe my actions against security are enough to meet the criteria of self-antagging.