Traitor round removes the acting Captain to call the shuttle? :/

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Byond Account: Littlebear2
Character Name(s): Clumsy-Baton
Discord Name: -
Round ID: 29219
Date: 8 November 2023
Griefer IC name: Eraukon Faust
Griefer Byond account (if known): Eraukon

What happened: Poor Captain (Kevin Trotir was the RD) stripped off and thrown into space
;(

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i hope you guys like my paint skills :P

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Hi there, I was the traitor.

Captain had already seen me commit traitorous acts and reacted lethally to detain me. I reacted lethally This was a lowpop round with him being the only command and the only security. I needed his ID to even unlock head of security’s locker to get both objectives. He engaged in a fight with me at bridge that moved from bridge into space and he fled into space and died to his wounds. I took his ID and when I pushed off his body floated away into deep space.

Edit: I believe you think I am in wrong of Antagonist Rules 1.1 and 1.2 aswell

Blockquote * 1.1. Do not needlessly kill those you do not need to outside of your objectives and simply because you can. This includes destroying silicons. Things like covering up evidence, dealing with pursuing security officers, ‘Good Samaritans’ on your tail, and removing a witness, are always acceptable examples. Ahelping ideas for gimmicks may grant an exception to this.

  • 1.2. Killing players outside of rule 1.1 must directly further your goal, and you cannot permanently remove these players from the round. For example, killing an engineer to gain departmental access with the objective to steal the CE’s blueprints is acceptable. Killing an engineer for her insulated gloves or access to the prolathe without an objective in that department is not.

As far as explaining, when Captain caught me on bridge and shot at me, this is when 1.1 is null and void I believe as they are both command/security and pursuing me. Thus I reacted lethally.

Even if that fight never happened, I would still need them for the end of 1.2. they were the only person that round with access that could get into HoS locker and CE’s locker for the objectives.

Hope this clears anything up.

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yep you can kill anyone who messing with you buuut!! there is a secret rule for round removing, here is a note I got 5 days ago :(

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Oh its not a secret rule, round removal is in the last section of the rulebook under antag section. Theres a chart of who can round remove when and under what conditions. Intent has a huge place in this though, the firefight happened in space sadly and unfortunately one of those things that happens in zero grav is when they go a direction after dying they’ll just float, he floated to a lattice luckily so its not like he was thrown into deep space purposely.

I’m not one to make assumptions but I assume with your note specifically, you may have shoved them in a locker or with intent and purpose threw them into space or made them otherwise irretrievable.

Mine was not the intent and I didn’t really want to take the firefight into space, but it simply happened as a consequence of dying in space. I didn’t with purpose and intent take him out there.

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damn i just realized :O

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This has been taken care of, thanks for reporting!